Skip navigation
Scripting is disabled or not working. dustygroove.com requires JavaScript to function correctly.
Style sheets are disabled or not working. dustygroove.com requires style sheets to function correctly.
CD, LP, Vinyl record album cover art
Enlarge       Note

For The Love Of Fire & Water

CD (Item 111223) Rogue Art (France), 2022 — Condition: New Copy
$14.99 ...

CD

List Price: 16.99
A tremendous quintet of top-shelf improvisers – all coming together here in a reading of a 10 part suite composed by group leader, pianist Myra Melford! The album's easily one of the boldest that Melford has recorded in years – a fantastic reminder of her power when she's really at her best – and her ability to create real magic at a spontaneous level, working alongside Mary Halvorson on guitar, Ingrid Laubrock on tenor and soprano, Tomeka Reid on cello, and Susie Ibarra on drums and percussion! All four other players are key leaders on their own – but come together here seamlessly, in music that's often strongly directed by Melford's piano presence, but explosively creative in all the other parts of the spectrum as well. The set features the long title piece, divided up into ten segments – beautiful throughout!  © 1996-2022, Dusty Groove, Inc.

There may be different interpretations or standards used to grade pre-owned vinyl record albums & CDs. These are the grades that we use and what they mean for items that are not new copies.

Used Vinyl Grades

Below are stated conditions for a used vinyl records at Dusty Groove. Grading for the cover should be assumed to be near (within a "+" or "-") the grading for the vinyl. If there is significant divergence from the condition of the vinyl, or specific flaws, these will be noted in the comments section of the item. However, please be aware that since the emphasis of this site is towards the music listener, our main concern is with the vinyl of any used item we sell. Additionally, all of our records are graded visually; considering the volume of used vinyl we handle, it is impossible for us to listen to each record. If we spot any significant flaws, we make every attempt to listen through them and note how they play.

The following grading conditions apply to the vinyl component of an album or single:

Sealed

This is what it says, that the record is still held fast in shrink-wrap. We tend to be pretty suspicious about these things, so if the shrink-wrap doesn't look original, or if the record seems to have undergone some damage over time, we'll probably take it out of the wrapper to ensure that it's in good shape — which is why we don't have more of these. In some cases the shrink-wrap may be torn in spots, but if it's not possible the record has been taken out and played, the record will still qualify as "Sealed".

Near Mint

Dusty Groove does not use the grades of Near Mint (or Mint, for that matter) because in our experience, we find that no records ever qualify for such a high grade. Even sealed records tend to have one or two slight faults, enough to usually qualify them for a grade of NM- or lower. We've often found that records which are clearly unplayed will have a slight amount of surface noise, especially in quieter recordings.

Near Mint - (minus)

  • Black vinyl that may show a slight amount of dust or dirt.
  • Should still be very shiny under a light, even with slight amount of dust on surface.
  • One or two small marks that would make an otherwise near perfect record slightly less so. These marks cannot be too deep, and should only be surface marks that won't affect play, but might detract from the looks.
  • May have some flaws and discoloration in the vinyl, but only those that would be intrinsic to the pressing. These should disappear when the record is tilted under the light, and will only show up when looking straight at the record. (Buddah and ABC pressings from the 70's are a good example of this.)
  • May have some slight marks from aging of the paper sleeve on the vinyl.
  • Possible minor surface noise when played.

Very Good + (plus)

  • Vinyl should be very clean, but can have less luster than near mint.
  • Should still shine under a light, but one or two marks may show up when tilted.
  • Can have a few small marks that may show up easily, but which do not affect play at all. Most marks of this quality will disappear when the record is tilted, and will not be felt with the back of a fingernail.
  • This is the kind of record that will play "near mint", but which will have some signs of use (although not major ones).
  • May have slight surface noise when played.

Very Good

  • Vinyl can have some dirt, but nothing major.
  • May not shine under light, but should still be pretty clean, and not too dirty.
  • May have a number of marks (5 to 10 at most), and obvious signs of play, but never a big cluster of them, or any major mark that would be very deep. Most marks should still not click under a fingernail.
  • May not look near perfect, but should play fairly well, with slight surface noise, and the occasional click in part of a song, but never throughout a whole song or more.
  • This is clearly a copy that was played by someone a number of times, but which could also be a good "play copy" for someone new.

Very Good - (minus)

  • Vinyl may be dirty, and can lack a fair amount of luster.
  • Vinyl can have a number of marks, either in clusters or smaller amounts, but deeper.
  • This is the kind of record that you'd buy to play, but not because it looked that great. Still, the flaws should be mostly cosmetic, with nothing too deep that would ruin the overall record.
  • Examples include a record that has been kept for a while in a cover without the paper sleeve, or heavily played by a previous owner and has some marks across the surface. The record should play okay, though probably with surface noise.

Good + (plus)

  • Vinyl may be dirty, or have one outstanding flaw, such as a light residue, which could be difficult to clean.
  • May have marks on all parts, too many to qualify as Very Good-, or several deeper marks, but the record should still be ok for play without skips.
  • In general, this is a record that was played a fair amount, and handled without care. A typical example may be a record which has been heavily played by a DJ, and carries marks from slip cueing. Depending on the quality of the vinyl, may play with surface noise throughout.

Good

  • A record that you'd buy to play, cheap, but which you wouldn't buy for collecting.
  • Will have marks across all parts of the playing surface, and will most likely play with surface noise throughout. May have some other significant flaws, such as residue, or a track that skips.
  • In most cases, a poor quality copy of a very difficult to find record.

Fair

This is a grade we rarely use, as we try not to sell records in very bad condition, though in some rare cases we will list a record in such bad shape that it does not conform to the standards above. A "Fair" record will have enough marks or significant flaws that it does not even qualify as "Good", but is a copy you might consider for playing, if you're willing to put up with noise and/or flaws. An example might be a recording with surface noise so heavy that it is equal to the volume of the music. For records listed as "Fair", we will describe the extent of the condition in the comments.

Poor

Like "Fair", we rarely list records in this condition, as they represent the extreme low end of spectrum. These records typically have multiple serious problems, and we offer them as "relics" or "objects" only — for those who want to at least have a copy of a record, even if it is not really worthy of play, perhaps for the cover alone. For these records, we will describe the extent of the condition in the comments.

Additional Marks & Notes

If something is noteworthy, we try to note it in the comments — especially if it is an oddity that is the only wrong thing about the record. This might include, but isn't limited to, warped records, tracks that skip, cover damage or wear as noted above, or strictly cosmetic flaws.


Used CD Grade

We only use the grade "Used CD" for non-new CDs. This all-encompassing grade was chosen it because we only buy and offer used CDs in the best possible condition.

When you purchase a used CD you can expect the disc to be free of all but the lightest of surface marks, the case to be clean (we often change the cases ourselves), and the booklet to be in good shape. Used CDs may show some signs of use, but if there are significant details or defects we will describe the item's condition (just like we do with LPs), so look for notes on cutout marks, stickers, promo stamps or other details before ordering.

All of our used CDs are guaranteed to play without skipping or flaws. After you receive a used CD from Dusty Groove, you have 1 week to play it to determine that it plays correctly. If it does not, you can request a return for a full refund.


You might be interested


Jazz Line (Germany), 1988. New Copy 2CDs
A mighty nice late life concert from tenor genius Eddie Harris – and one that has a number of moments that remind us just how special Eddie could be in the right setting! The group here is a bit unusual in that it has a guitar in the lineup instead of a piano – Darryl Thompson on the ... CD

Neil Swainson

Fire In The West
Cellar Live, 2022. New Copy
Bassist Neil Swainson almost never gives us a record as a leader, but when he does, it's usually something special – which is definitely the case on this well-crafted set! Swainson's kind of a secret talent – a great player in his own right, an excellent composer, and one of those ... CD
Jazz Line (Germany), 1986. New Copy 2CD
The masterful Gil Evans was very alive and well in the 80s – working in ways that continued to push forward from his famous arranging modes of the 50s and 60s, and furthering some of the experiments with electric instrumentation that he began in the 70s! And somehow, the strength of Evans ... CD

Joe McPhee/Michael Bisio/Fred Lonberg Holm/Juma Sultan

Sweet Spot
Rogue Art (France), 2021. New Copy
An album that really lives up to its title – as it seems to find a magical sweet spot between all four of the improvising giants on the session – at a level that really makes the record way more than the sum of its parts! The string players here are especially amazing – as Fred ... CD

Rob Mazurek

Father's Wing
Rogue Art (France), 2022. New Copy
A wonderfully poetic performance from Rob Mazurek – dedicated to the memory of his father, presented with a poem penned by Rob in the notes, and delivered by a quartet who really help Mazurek move into the most spiritual side of his musical spectrum! The group features tremendous work on ... CD

Tony Malaby/Angelica Sanchez/Tom Rainey

Huapango
Rogue Art (France), 2022. New Copy
A fiercely fluid outing from saxophonist Tony Malaby – a player who always seems to work with a very dexterous spirit, but who really unlocks a special sort of magic here in the company of pianist Angelica Sanchez and drummer Tom Rainey! Tony himself plays tenor and soprano, and Angelica ... CD

Rob Mazurek

All Distances Inform
Rogue Art (France), 2022. New Copy
Really fantastic solo work from the great Rob Mazurek – an album that features only performances on piccolo trumpet, recorded with this echoey sort of majesty that just seems to further enhance the poetry in the tunes! Rob's an artist we've been happy to follow for many years – and he ... CD

Judson Trio (Joelle Leandre/Gerald Cleaver/Mat Maneri)

Light & Dance
Rogue Art (France), 2021. New Copy 2CDs
We always love the basswork of Joelle Leandre, and finds that she can really bring something special to a session – which is definitely the case here in a double-length set of trio recordings with Matt Maneri on viola and Gerald Cleaver on drums and percussion! It's a bit hard to describe in ... CD

Gregory Tardy

Sufficient Grace
WJ3, 2022. New Copy
There's way more than sufficient grace going on here – and a strongly soulful swing that really has the whole album coming together, right on the money! Maybe that's no surprise, though, given that the set's issued on the excellent WJ3 label from Willie Jones III, who plays drums at the core ... CD
RCA/BGO (UK), 1964/1965/1966. New Copy 2CD
CD...$8.99 20.99
A trio of excellent Gary Burton albums from the 60s – collected together in a single set! Something's Coming is the launch of vibist Gary Burton as a leader – a force in jazz that would continue strongly for decades to come! At the time of the record, Burton had already been making ... CD

Kirk Knuffke Trio

Gravity Without Airs
Tao Forms, 2022. New Copy 2CDs
The poetic title here is wonderfully well-suited to the album – as there's a free-floating, spacious quality to the music – yet one that's very different than some of the softer sessions that sort of reference might make you expect! Cornet player Kirk Knuffke always has a great sense ... CD

Dreamstruck (Crispell/Fonda/Sorgen)

With Grace In Mind
Fundacja Sluchaj, 2022. New Copy
A record that definitely has the grace in mind that it promises in its title – superb piano work, as always, by Marilyn Crispell – working in an extremely thoughtful trio formation with Joe Fonda on bass and Harvey Sorgen on drums! Crispell's always such a fantastically deft musician, ... CD
 



⇑ Top